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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.toostupidtodie.net/2008/05/05/bolting-from-the-er/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

I remember the first time you came into the pharmacy... in a panic.  I think you were sure we were all your enemies.  Sometimes we seem distant just to protect ourselves, but that is the cowards way out for those of us that see patients on a daily basis.  It takes a little time and work, but learning about our patients as people (not just their conditions or the drugs they are on) can establish a special interaction and understanding.  Growth like that is a continuing process, but the good practitioners are on that path.  You&#039;ve helped me move farther down that path.  Thank you.

See you and Otto soon,
Robin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>I remember the first time you came into the pharmacy&#8230; in a panic.  I think you were sure we were all your enemies.  Sometimes we seem distant just to protect ourselves, but that is the cowards way out for those of us that see patients on a daily basis.  It takes a little time and work, but learning about our patients as people (not just their conditions or the drugs they are on) can establish a special interaction and understanding.  Growth like that is a continuing process, but the good practitioners are on that path.  You&#8217;ve helped me move farther down that path.  Thank you.</p>
<p>See you and Otto soon,<br />
Robin</p>
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		<title>By: EdB</title>
		<link>http://www.toostupidtodie.net/2008/05/05/bolting-from-the-er/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>EdB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see my experience in the ER as a critique of the staff there - other than the tendency of all ERs to ignore you if you&#039;re not bleeding profusely or in cardiac arrest. (I heard from a number of people whose ER experiences entailed the exact same type of abandonment.) No, the problem last week was inside me: the panic, the sheer horror I felt on being there, the emotions that followed.

As to being a squeaky wheel, I&#039;ve all but written the book on that though I suspect my approach is different than Mike&#039;s. I am a huge fan of most who work in the medical profession. But I don&#039;t hesitate to put my medical &quot;superiors&quot; through their paces. Years ago I actually had a doc fire &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; because I asked too many questions and debated the science behind his answers.

As far as firing staff, while I&#039;ve had more than one nurse I felt should have chosen another profession - any other profession - I&#039;ve refused to see a doc only once or twice in my medical career. Unless they&#039;re stupid or careless - there are few of the former, more of the latter - I try to work with them, at least for a while. Here&#039;s the thing: despite all our modern advances, medicine is still as much art - or voodoo - as it is science. Sometimes the docs and techs and nurses are right on with their approach. Sometimes they&#039;re not. The surgeon who performed my transplant also performed the hernia operation that led to my miseries in December. The transplant by every standard was one of the most successful ever done. The hernia opp, well, not. I don&#039;t think the difference was in the doc; if anything I blame it on my body&#039;s deterioration ofter 14 months on interferon. The only mistake the docs made was not ordering me to wait longer - in retrospect I was too persistent (there is a downside to being your own advocate). Would I have gained anything by going with another surgeon? I doubt it.

My eye: I was in touch all this week with my &quot;handlers&quot; (aka: saints). The problem is clearly cause/effect with the diuretics; I can trigger it by taking full dose, make it go away by cutting back. My next appointment&#039;s Tuesday and I&#039;m sure new dosages or meds will be assigned.

One last note: I found out that UCSF does have a drop-in clinic. You have to go between 9 and 6 Monday through Friday, but it&#039;s where I should have gone with my eye. I have virtually lived on campus for the last two years; I have friends that work there who say I know the place better than they do. &lt;i&gt;How&lt;/i&gt; could I go so long without knowing about the clinic????? Sigh.

--Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see my experience in the ER as a critique of the staff there &#8211; other than the tendency of all ERs to ignore you if you&#8217;re not bleeding profusely or in cardiac arrest. (I heard from a number of people whose ER experiences entailed the exact same type of abandonment.) No, the problem last week was inside me: the panic, the sheer horror I felt on being there, the emotions that followed.</p>
<p>As to being a squeaky wheel, I&#8217;ve all but written the book on that though I suspect my approach is different than Mike&#8217;s. I am a huge fan of most who work in the medical profession. But I don&#8217;t hesitate to put my medical &#8220;superiors&#8221; through their paces. Years ago I actually had a doc fire <i>me</i> because I asked too many questions and debated the science behind his answers.</p>
<p>As far as firing staff, while I&#8217;ve had more than one nurse I felt should have chosen another profession &#8211; any other profession &#8211; I&#8217;ve refused to see a doc only once or twice in my medical career. Unless they&#8217;re stupid or careless &#8211; there are few of the former, more of the latter &#8211; I try to work with them, at least for a while. Here&#8217;s the thing: despite all our modern advances, medicine is still as much art &#8211; or voodoo &#8211; as it is science. Sometimes the docs and techs and nurses are right on with their approach. Sometimes they&#8217;re not. The surgeon who performed my transplant also performed the hernia operation that led to my miseries in December. The transplant by every standard was one of the most successful ever done. The hernia opp, well, not. I don&#8217;t think the difference was in the doc; if anything I blame it on my body&#8217;s deterioration ofter 14 months on interferon. The only mistake the docs made was not ordering me to wait longer &#8211; in retrospect I was too persistent (there is a downside to being your own advocate). Would I have gained anything by going with another surgeon? I doubt it.</p>
<p>My eye: I was in touch all this week with my &#8220;handlers&#8221; (aka: saints). The problem is clearly cause/effect with the diuretics; I can trigger it by taking full dose, make it go away by cutting back. My next appointment&#8217;s Tuesday and I&#8217;m sure new dosages or meds will be assigned.</p>
<p>One last note: I found out that UCSF does have a drop-in clinic. You have to go between 9 and 6 Monday through Friday, but it&#8217;s where I should have gone with my eye. I have virtually lived on campus for the last two years; I have friends that work there who say I know the place better than they do. <i>How</i> could I go so long without knowing about the clinic????? Sigh.</p>
<p>&#8211;Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 05:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could agree with Mike. ER people have a lot on their plates and they too need a little bit of our support. Their job is probably one of the most difficult on this planet. Most multi-task, juggling between this and that patient all needing urgent attention. Make one tiny mistake and all hell will break loose.

I suppose, Ed, that you&#039;ve already seen your doc to get your eye fixed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could agree with Mike. ER people have a lot on their plates and they too need a little bit of our support. Their job is probably one of the most difficult on this planet. Most multi-task, juggling between this and that patient all needing urgent attention. Make one tiny mistake and all hell will break loose.</p>
<p>I suppose, Ed, that you&#8217;ve already seen your doc to get your eye fixed?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never apologize for taking your health into your own hands.  No one is going to look out for you in the hospital and unless you advocate for yourself.  Which includes leaving if you&#039;re not being helped.  Not a damned thing gets done unless we push for it.

In the many, many (many!) trips I take to the ER, or for appointments for labs, scans, procedures and chemo, I have had no problem making noise until I&#039;m seen.

I also don&#039;t apologize for firing medical personnel (I&#039;ve done that a fair number of times).  They are there to work for me, I&#039;m not there to wait for them to find a convenient time to get to me.  I&#039;d be dead.

&quot;Squeaky wheel&quot; some call it, and in today&#039;s medical industrial complex, there&#039;s much validity to that.  Give &#039;em hell and tell them I sent you!  (hehe)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never apologize for taking your health into your own hands.  No one is going to look out for you in the hospital and unless you advocate for yourself.  Which includes leaving if you&#8217;re not being helped.  Not a damned thing gets done unless we push for it.</p>
<p>In the many, many (many!) trips I take to the ER, or for appointments for labs, scans, procedures and chemo, I have had no problem making noise until I&#8217;m seen.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t apologize for firing medical personnel (I&#8217;ve done that a fair number of times).  They are there to work for me, I&#8217;m not there to wait for them to find a convenient time to get to me.  I&#8217;d be dead.</p>
<p>&#8220;Squeaky wheel&#8221; some call it, and in today&#8217;s medical industrial complex, there&#8217;s much validity to that.  Give &#8216;em hell and tell them I sent you!  (hehe)</p>
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